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- > I have a CD-ROM (Netnews/CD from Sterling Software) that has a big
- > pile of news in it -- and I'd like to support reasonable access to
- > it via WWW. However; the current support for NNTP reading in WWW
- > assumes that there's a single NNTP server through which all
- > "news:" access will go, so it's not straightforward to support
- > a second system which might have an alternative access to a news spool.
- >
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- > I'd suggest extending the syntax to read as follows
- > news:comp.sys.foo comp.sys.foo on default system
- > news://nntp.archive.msen.com/comp.sys.foo nntp.archive.msen.com
- > news://nntp.archive.msen.com:1990/comp.sys.foo (on port 1990)
- > with similar extensions for referencing individual articles.
- >
- > - Ed
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- The syntax would certianly fit in with the UDI format -- however, are the semantics
- well defined? In general, the whole point of news is that it is held locally,
- avoiding millions of WAN accesses.
-
- If you put in a node name, then you are changing the way the protocol works
- altogether. This might be conveient, but its not really "news". You're saying
- that we can use NNTP as a file retrieval protocol. Obviously, once you have given
- out a reference like that above you have to make nntp.archive.msen.com available
- for everyone in the world.
-
- Maybe this is a way to solve the news archive retrieval problem. It isn't done
- that way at the moment of course: Its a big headache right now. Messages are tared
- and compressed and put on some machine under the date of the message -- you have to
- know which newsgroup the message was sent to, and then look the archive hostname up
- in a list which doesn't (correct me?) exist. (Another use for the X-500 directory?)
-
- It doesn't fit very well into the news model, all the same. For example, when you
- find a reference to another newsgroup/article on your CD rom, There's no way of
- knowing whether you should look it up on the CD rom or on a "live" news server.
- We really need some NNTP extensions to insist that the message-id can carry some
- hints as to where it might be archived -- unfortunately I missed the NNTP session
- at the IETF but I know that Eliot Lear (ietf nntp wg chair) for example is thinking
- about such problems, and indeed from talking to him I got the impression that the
- NNTP group's discussions were overflowing into the retrieval and resource discovery
- areas.
-
- It's not _trivial_ to put it in the code for (One will have to keep a cache of
- network connections to hosts) so I won't do it now. I'd point out you could set up
- an HTTP server to serve the news data, although it would have (currently) to
- convert the news format into HTML which it (currently) doesn't (yet) do (yet).
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- Tim
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- --Ed
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